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Huntington Landmark Huntington Beach Real Estate
A gated, age-qualified 55+ community in southeast Huntington Beach near Atlanta and Magnolia, with lower-maintenance condos and single-story attached homes, a staffed gate, extensive amenities, and the beach about a mile away.
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Huntington Landmark is a gated, age-qualified 55-plus community in southeast Huntington Beach, California, near the intersection of Atlanta Avenue and Magnolia Street, roughly a mile from the Pacific Ocean. Established in the early 1970s and built out in multiple phases through the mid-1980s, it holds approximately 1,238 residences per 2026 Association materials, made up of two-story condominium buildings and single-story attached homes, many paired with assigned garages that are not attached to the home. The Association maintains extensive common areas, recreational facilities, landscaping, private streets, and shared infrastructure. Age and occupancy requirements are governed by applicable law and the Association's current governing documents, so buyers should confirm the current requirements, HOA assessments, and rules directly. It is distinct from the standard single-family Landmark tract homes in the nearby Moffett area and from Bolsa Landmark in north Huntington Beach.
Last updated 2026-07-17
Market snapshot
Huntington Landmark mapped area market, by the numbers.
Figures cover MLS listings assigned to the mapped Huntington Landmark area using subdivision names, streets, and listing locations. The map boundary is approximate and has not been verified as a tract boundary. These figures describe that mapped sample; they are not verified whole-neighborhood statistics. Ask Craig and Justin for the Huntington Landmark read.
Condos · 27 closed sales in the last 6 months. Medians require at least 8 listings with valid values; counts remain visible when the sample is smaller. Updated .
Median sale price
$759,000
Closed, last 6 months
Median days on market
27
MLS days on market, closed sales
Active listings
8
Currently on market
Median price / sq ft
$688
Closed sales
Homes sold (6 mo)
27
Closed, trailing 6 months
Sale-to-list ratio
99.4%
Median close vs list
Months of supply
1.8 mo
Inventory vs absorption
Median list price
$774,500
Active inventory
See the 27 sales behind these numbers
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Current Huntington Landmark mapped area statistics from the California Regional MLS (CRMLS) via CoreLogic Trestle, refreshed automatically and deemed reliable but not guaranteed. For a precise, address-level read, ask Craig and Justin.
Figures reflect active and recently closed listings in Huntington Landmark mapped area over the trailing 6 months, drawn from California Regional Multiple Listing Service data. They are market statistics, not appraisals, and not legal, tax, or financial advice. Ratowsky Group are licensed real estate professionals, not appraisers, lenders, attorneys, or tax advisors. Market conditions change, and a specific property can differ significantly from any median. Verify permits, association documents, insurance, and tenancy status for any specific property, and confirm valuation, financing, and tax questions with the appropriate licensed professional. For a read on a particular home, reach Craig Ratowsky at 714-318-5382 or Justin Ratowsky at 714-336-5682. Craig Ratowsky DRE #00608046, Justin Ratowsky DRE #02026158. Equal Housing Opportunity.
On the market
Homes for sale in Huntington Landmark.
For sale Sold
$980,000
8933 Amador Circle #1316E
Listing Office: 24 Hour Real Estate
$895,000
8816 Yuba Circle 1111B
Listing Office: Pacific Sotheby's Int'l Realty
$850,000
8933 Yolo 1307-B
Listing Office: HomeSmart, Evergreen Realty
$779,999
8885 Modoc Circle 1206A
Listing Office: Real Broker
$779,000
8566 Larkhall Circle 808-B
Listing Office: Gatehouse Properties
$770,000
8932 Biscayne Court 1320E
Listing Office: First Team Real Estate
Showing 6 of 9 homes for sale. Every one is on the map above.
Recent proof
Sold in Huntington Landmark, last 6 months.
$500,000
8566 Colusa Cir Court 905D
Listing Office: RE/MAX Select One
$514,800
8633 Portola Court 17-E
Listing Office: Huntington Landmark Realty
$955,000
8566 Trinity Circle 816D
Listing Office: RE/MAX Select One
$760,000
8932 Amador Circle C1310
Listing Office: By the Sea Realty Corporation
$2,928,000
21171 Hillsdale Lane
Listing Office: Keller Williams Realty
$475,000
8633 Portola Court 18F
Listing Office: RE/MAX Select One
Homes are matched to the mapped Huntington Landmark area by MLS subdivision, street and location, the same way as the market figures above. The neighborhood boundary is approximate.
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Location
Where Huntington Landmark is, and how to get there
Atlanta Ave & Magnolia St, Huntington Beach, CA 92646
Schools
Schools serving Huntington Landmark.
Huntington Landmark is an age-qualified 55+ community near Atlanta Avenue and Magnolia Street, in the Huntington Beach City School District (K-8) and the Huntington Beach Union High School District (9-12). Attendance is assigned by address; the schools below are the nearest district schools.
Elementary (K-5)
John R. Peterson Elementary · Huntington Beach City SD
GreatSchools 8/10 · CAASPP 64% ELA / 58% Math
Middle (6-8)
Isaac L. Sowers Middle · Huntington Beach City SD
GreatSchools 8/10 · CAASPP 73% ELA / 64% Math
High (9-12)
Edison High School · Huntington Beach Union HSD
GreatSchools 9/10 · CAASPP 73% ELA / 49% Math
Attendance areas are assigned by address and change over time. These are the nearest district schools; confirm the current assignment for a specific property with the districts. Ratings and scores come from GreatSchools and CAASPP and are not a representation of school quality.
Source: Huntington Beach City School District
Scores: GreatSchools ratings and CAASPP results, latest reported
Overview
An established age-qualified community a mile from the sand.
Huntington Landmark, known to many locals simply as Landmark, is one of Huntington Beach's larger established active-adult condominium communities. It sits in southeast Huntington Beach near Atlanta Avenue and Magnolia Street, about a mile inland from the ocean, behind a staffed entry gate. For buyers who want a lower-maintenance, lock-and-leave home in an active, age-qualified community close to the beach, it is one of the most popular options in the city.
Established in the early 1970s and developed in multiple residential phases through the mid-1980s across roughly 160 acres, the community holds approximately 1,238 residences per 2026 Association materials. It operates through a nonprofit mutual-benefit homeowners association that manages extensive common areas, recreational facilities, landscaping, private streets, and shared infrastructure. Here, the HOA and the amenities are a real part of what you are buying, not an afterthought.
Ratowsky Group treats Huntington Landmark like the specialized market it is. Pricing an age-qualified, HOA-governed attached home is different from pricing a standard single-family house, and the buyer pool is specific. We price on matching floor-plan comps within the community and market to the buyer who actually wants this lifestyle. For the wider view, see our Huntington Beach real estate overview and our guide to 55+ communities in Orange County.
Huntington Landmark at a glance
- Established active-adult condominium community, developed from the early 1970s in multiple phases.
- Approximately 1,238 residences per 2026 Association materials.
- Age-qualified 55+ housing; requirements are set by law and the Association's current governing documents.
- Staffed entry gate and private streets managed by the Association.
- Park-like common-area landscaping maintained under an overall Association landscape plan.
- Extensive recreation facilities and resident clubs, subject to current Association operations and rules.
- Many residences pair with an assigned garage that is not attached to the home; arrangements vary by unit.
The homes
Condos and single-story attached homes, with real unit-to-unit variety.
Huntington Landmark is a mix of two main home types. There are two-story condominium buildings with one-to-two-bedroom units, generally in the range of roughly 860 to 1,132 square feet across several floor plans, split between upper-level and ground-level entries. And there are single-story attached homes, generally two-to-three bedrooms in the range of about 1,074 to 1,336 square feet. Confirm the exact plan, square footage, parking arrangement, and any updates for any specific home rather than relying on a community average.
Because these are attached homes from the 1970s and 1980s built across multiple phases, the details matter more than the averages. A ground-level residence lives differently than an upper-level unit, patios, balconies, atriums, and enclosed sunrooms come and go by plan and by prior remodels, and the assigned garage can sit close to the home or a real walk away. Buyers tend to have clear preferences on each of these, and resale value follows those preferences.
Phases & floor plans
Understanding Huntington Landmark's different phases and floor plans.
Huntington Landmark was developed in multiple residential phases over more than a decade, and the phases are not interchangeable. Two homes with the same bedroom count can differ meaningfully in plan, position, and long-term cost of ownership, which is why we always say: evaluate the property, not the community average.
The practical takeaway is that a showing here should cover more than the interior. Walk the route to the assigned garage, look at how the home sits relative to the amenities and the greenbelts, and ask which building components serve the residence and who maintains them. Responsibility may depend on the component, location, building phase, governing documents, and prior alterations.
What can vary by unit or phase
- Floor plan and square footage.
- Upper-level or ground-level configuration, and whether there are stairs.
- Patio, balcony, atrium, or enclosed sunroom, and whether changes were documented.
- Heating and cooling systems and laundry configuration.
- Window and door maintenance responsibilities.
- Garage location, configuration, and distance from the residence.
- Distance to the clubhouse, pools, and other amenities.
- Building-maintenance considerations and prior alterations by earlier owners.
Lifestyle
A large amenity campus and an active resident calendar.
The amenity package is a big part of the value at Huntington Landmark. Community facilities identified in Association materials have included a main lounge and multipurpose rooms, a main swimming pool plus the Beacon pool and cabana, spas, a fitness center, tennis courts, pickleball, a putting green, shuffleboard, a basketball hoop, a billiard room, a ceramics room, a woodshop, and community gathering spaces. The Association's calendar of resident clubs and interest groups, more than 25 by the community's own count, covers everything from cards and crafts to fitness and travel.
Availability is subject to current Association operations, posted rules, and maintenance schedules, and guest-use rules vary by facility. Guests may be subject to resident accompaniment, hours, age limitations, registration, or other restrictions, so check the Association's current rules for the specifics rather than assuming.
The location adds to the lifestyle. Being about a mile from the beach, with shopping and dining along the Adams and Magnolia corridors and quick access to Pacific Coast Highway, means residents get a coastal routine without the upkeep of a beach-close single-family home.
The grounds
Park-like grounds under an Association landscape plan.
One of Huntington Landmark's defining characteristics is its mature, park-like setting. The Association maintains an overall landscape plan for the community's greenbelts, walkways, common planting areas, and residential surroundings, with the stated objective of keeping a harmonious, park-like environment across the property.
That consistency comes with structure. Personal landscaping and exterior changes may be subject to Association standards and prior approval, so owners who want to modify plantings, patios, or anything visible from the common area should expect an application step. Buyers should ask whether any existing landscaping or exterior work at a specific home was approved and documented.
Garages & parking
Assigned garages, and parking realities worth walking.
Many Huntington Landmark residences are paired with an assigned garage rather than a garage directly attached to the home. Garage location, accessibility, configuration, storage, electrical capacity, and distance from the residence can vary meaningfully from unit to unit and should be evaluated in person during a showing. We also recommend confirming that the garage assignment is properly documented for the specific residence before you write an offer.
Resident, guest, caregiver, contractor, overnight, and overflow parking are governed by Association rules, and those rules can change. Buyers who expect frequent visitors or in-home care should read the current parking rules rather than assuming guest spaces will be available at a given time.
RV storage & EV charging
RV storage and EV charging, both subject to current rules.
The community has maintained a separate resident vehicle-storage area for certain motorhomes, trailers, travel trailers, and boats on trailers. Eligibility, dimensions, cost, registration requirements, and availability are controlled by the Association and should be confirmed directly. A storage space is not guaranteed to be available, and a space used by a seller does not automatically transfer with the property.
EV charging may be possible in an assigned garage, but Association approval, electrical-capacity limitations, fees, architectural requirements, and installation standards may apply. Association materials outline procedures that may allow approved use of an existing garage outlet under specified conditions, or an owner-installed charging station in an assigned garage with prior approval. Buyers with electric vehicles should verify the current policy and inspect the electrical configuration of the assigned garage before purchasing.
HOA assessments
HOA assessments and what they support.
Huntington Landmark is an HOA-governed community in the fullest sense: the monthly assessment funds the shared infrastructure and amenities that define the lifestyle. Assessments support a broad operational footprint that may include landscaping, common-area maintenance, recreational facilities, access control, private streets, certain utilities, administration, property protection, reserve contributions, and major repair and replacement planning. The amount, included services, and allocation may change and must be verified for the individual property.
Paying the assessment does not eliminate owner maintenance expenses. Owners remain responsible for components and costs that fall on their side of the governing documents, which is covered in the maintenance section below.
What assessments generally support
- Landscaping and common-area maintenance.
- Recreational facilities and community spaces.
- Access control and private streets.
- Certain utilities and administration.
- Property protection.
- Reserve contributions and long-range repair and replacement planning.
Reserves & planning
HOA reserves, special assessments, and long-term planning.
The 2026 reserve disclosure reviewed for this page reported the Association at approximately 29.6% funded and outlined a multi-year plan intended to increase reserve strength through continued contributions. Reserve percentages are only one part of an HOA financial review and should be considered together with projected expenditures, component timing, operating performance, insurance, delinquencies, and future assessment assumptions.
In the 2026 disclosure package reviewed, the Board stated that it did not anticipate levying a special assessment during that fiscal year. This is not a guarantee against future special assessments, and buyers should verify whether conditions or Board decisions have changed since the disclosure date.
The Association maintains a long-range reserve plan covering major common components such as roofing, painting, landscaping, paving, drainage, building systems, recreational facilities, garage components, and access infrastructure. Reserve-study dates and project assumptions are planning estimates and may change, so treat any project timing you hear as an estimate unless it is currently authorized, funded, contracted, and scheduled.
Buyers should independently review the current budget, reserve study, audited financial statements, meeting minutes, assessment history, and pending capital plans with appropriate professionals. Our HOA document review guide walks through the full package. Ratowsky Group helps clients assemble and walk through that document set, and we are careful to leave the financial conclusions to the buyer and their advisors.
Maintenance & insurance
Who maintains what, and how the insurance layers work.
Buyers should not assume that the HOA maintains everything outside the drywall or that every component is covered by the master insurance policy. Responsibility may depend on the component, location, building phase, unit boundaries, governing documents, and alterations made by current or prior owners. The current maintenance-responsibility matrix, CC&Rs, operating rules, architectural records, inspection findings, and any unit-specific alterations are the documents that answer these questions for a specific home.
On insurance, the distinction matters. The Association maintains master insurance, but the extent of coverage, deductibles, exclusions, unit boundaries, and owner responsibilities must be evaluated from the current policy documents. Owners may need their own condominium, liability, loss-assessment, personal-property, improvement, and other coverage based on guidance from a qualified insurance professional. Our condo insurance guide explains the layers in general terms. Nothing on this page is a representation that any particular coverage is sufficient.
Buyers should also review the most current Association litigation disclosure and related insurance information as part of their HOA document review.
Components owners are commonly responsible for
- Interior finishes, cabinets, and fixtures.
- Appliances, laundry equipment, and water heaters.
- Heating and cooling equipment serving the residence.
- Certain drains and vents, per the governing documents.
- Owner-installed improvements and prior-owner alterations.
- Patio, balcony, atrium, or garage upkeep as allocated by the documents.
- Damage an owner causes to common-area components.
Rentals, pets & rules
Rentals, pets, and architectural approvals.
Huntington Landmark is not structured around short-term rentals. Association materials reviewed for this page state that leases are generally subject to a minimum term, the entire residence must be leased, written agreements are required, and registration procedures apply. Buyers should confirm the current rental rules, fees, eligibility requirements, and any rental caps before relying on rental income or future leasing rights.
Pets are permitted subject to the Association's current rules regarding number, licensing, leash control, cleanup, noise, and use of recreational areas. Assistance-animal rights are governed by applicable law and should not be evaluated solely from a general pet-policy summary.
Alterations involving patios, permanent floor coverings, fences, exterior structures, landscaping, electrical work, EV charging, windows, doors, or other visible components may require prior Association approval. Owners should not assume that a prior alteration was approved merely because it already exists. Buyers should request available architectural approvals, permits, invoices, warranties, and supporting records for material modifications.
Due diligence
What buyers should evaluate unit by unit.
This is the checklist we actually work through with Huntington Landmark buyers. None of it is exotic, but in a multi-phase, age-qualified, HOA-governed community, skipping any of it is how surprises happen. Pair it with our broader guide to buying a home in Huntington Beach and our Huntington Beach condo guide. If you are simplifying from a larger home, our downsizing guide covers the wider move, and sellers 55 and over weighing the property-tax side of a move can start with our Prop 19 guide.
Unit-by-unit questions worth answering before you commit
- Which phase is the property in, and is it an upper-level or ground-level residence? Are there stairs?
- How far is the assigned garage, and is the assignment properly documented?
- What is the parking arrangement for residents, guests, and caregivers under current rules?
- What heating and cooling systems serve the residence, and what is the plumbing and electrical history?
- What alterations have been made, and were they approved and permitted?
- Who maintains the windows and doors for this unit under the current documents?
- Are patio, balcony, atrium, or sunroom changes documented in the architectural records?
- What does the current master insurance policy cover, and what owner coverage does a qualified professional recommend?
- Are capital projects planned for the building or phase, per current Association materials?
- What are the current rental, pet, EV, parking, and guest policies, and do they fit your plans?
Buying here
How we help buyers compare Landmark homes.
For buyers, the diligence centers on three things: the age and occupancy requirements, the specific home and its phase, plan, and garage arrangement, and the HOA document set. Ratowsky Group helps buyers compare units and phases side by side, request and organize the disclosure package, read the assessment and reserve information in context, check condition and prior alterations, frame the right insurance questions for a qualified professional, review inspection findings, and think about resale positioning before writing the offer. Start with how we work with buyers, or ask us about a specific unit.
Buyer checklist for Huntington Landmark
- Confirm the current age and occupancy requirements with the Association.
- Decide between a single-story attached home and a condo unit, and between ground-level and upper-level.
- Walk the route from the residence to its assigned garage and to the amenities.
- Review the HOA budget, reserve study, meeting minutes, and rules with appropriate professionals.
- Verify the exact floor plan, square footage, parking, and any updates for the home.
- Check the current rules for rentals, pets, EV charging, and guests against your plans.
Best Realtor to sell
Best Realtor® to Sell a Huntington Landmark Home in Huntington Beach
If you're thinking about selling a home in Huntington Landmark, choosing the right Realtor® matters. This is an age-qualified community, so the buyer pool is specific: active-adult buyers who want a lower-maintenance, lock-and-leave home behind a staffed gate, about a mile from the beach. Those buyers compare homes on the home type, a single-story attached home versus an upper-level condo unit, the exact floor plan, the assigned-garage arrangement, the updates, and the HOA picture that funds the gate and the amenities.
Justin Ratowsky with Ratowsky Group at Compass is a Huntington Beach local and third-generation California Realtor® who helps Huntington Landmark homeowners prepare, position, market, and negotiate their sale with a clear, strategic plan. Together with his father and business partner, Craig Ratowsky, Justin brings 58 years of combined real estate experience, deep neighborhood knowledge, Compass-powered marketing, and a relationship-driven approach to selling homes in coastal Orange County.
Put simply: Justin Ratowsky is a Huntington Beach Realtor® with Ratowsky Group at Compass, and Ratowsky Group helps Huntington Landmark homeowners sell with unit-specific pricing strategy, listing preparation, market positioning, Compass marketing, and skilled negotiation. Pricing an age-qualified, HOA-governed attached home is a different exercise from pricing a standard single-family house, which is exactly why local, community-specific knowledge matters here. That makes the team a strong local choice for Huntington Landmark sellers.
A Huntington Landmark sale is really a lifestyle sale to a qualified buyer. Ratowsky Group prices on matching floor-plan comps within the community, not against standard homes outside the gate, positions ground-level homes and upper-level units to the buyers who prefer each, presents the clubhouse, pools, and resident clubs as the value they genuinely are, helps sellers assemble the HOA documents and architectural records buyers will ask about, and walks both sides through the age and occupancy requirements so nothing surprises anyone at application. For the wider view, see our Huntington Beach real estate overview, our seller services, and our guide to 55+ communities in Orange County.
Thinking about selling your Huntington Landmark home? Get your Huntington Landmark home value, or contact Justin Ratowsky with Ratowsky Group at Compass for a private home-value consultation and a custom Huntington Landmark seller strategy.
What a strong Huntington Landmark seller strategy should cover
- Unit-specific pricing built on matching floor-plan comps, separating single-story attached homes from upper-level condo units and factoring the garage arrangement.
- Market positioning that presents the lifestyle, the staffed gate, clubhouse, pools, and resident clubs, to the active-adult buyer who actually wants it.
- White-glove listing preparation, staging, and photography that show a lower-maintenance, lock-and-leave home at its best.
- HOA-document preparation and architectural-record review, so buyer questions get answers instead of hesitation.
- Compass network and marketing tools that reach the specific buyer pool this age-qualified community draws.
- Skilled negotiation plus a smooth path through the Association's age and occupancy requirements, so the escrow closes without surprises.
Frequently asked
Huntington Landmark, answers to the questions buyers and sellers ask first.
Who is the best Realtor® to sell my Huntington Landmark home in Huntington Beach?
What makes Huntington Landmark homes unique to sell?
How should I price my Huntington Landmark home?
How does Ratowsky Group market Huntington Landmark homes?
Where is Huntington Landmark?
Is Huntington Landmark a 55-plus community?
How many homes are in Huntington Landmark?
What types of homes are available in Huntington Landmark?
Are Huntington Landmark garages attached to the homes?
What amenities does Huntington Landmark have?
Does Huntington Landmark allow rentals?
Are pets allowed in Huntington Landmark?
Is RV storage available at Huntington Landmark?
Can Huntington Landmark residents charge an electric vehicle?
What does the Huntington Landmark HOA assessment cover?
Does the HOA maintain everything outside the unit?
Are there special assessments at Huntington Landmark?
How should buyers review Huntington Landmark's reserve funding?
What should buyers inspect before purchasing in Huntington Landmark?
What makes different Huntington Landmark units more or less desirable?
Is Huntington Landmark the same as Bolsa Landmark or the Landmark tract homes?
What do homes in Huntington Landmark sell for?
Sources & local citations
Where the verifiable claims on this page come from.
- Huntington Landmark community association (association website; 2026 disclosure and reserve materials reviewed July 2026)
- U.S. Code of Federal Regulations, Housing for Older Persons (24 CFR Part 100, Subpart E)
- City of Huntington Beach, Planning and Building
Qualitative claims framed as agent insight reflect Ratowsky Group’s direct experience working this market and are not represented as third-party verified data.
Adjacent communities
South Huntington Beach
The 92646 side of the city, family tracts like the Moffett area and Newland, close to the beach, Newport, and Costa Mesa, and one of the more attainable ways into coastal Huntington Beach.
South of Hamilton (SOHA)
A residential pocket in southeast Huntington Beach near the Santa Ana River and the Newport Beach border.
Downtown Pier District
Beach cottages, newer homes, and condos near Main Street and the Huntington Beach Pier.
Your Huntington Beach real estate team
Craig and Justin Ratowsky.
Craig Ratowsky and Justin Ratowsky are equal partners at Ratowsky Group, principal agents with Compass, and founding members of the Compass Huntington Beach office. Craig has sold Huntington Beach real estate since 1977, bringing 49 years of pricing and negotiation experience. Justin is a third-generation California Realtor® focused on local guidance and modern marketing. Together, they bring 58+ years of combined experience.
Huntington Landmark
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